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		<title>By: TDD: One test at a time at Mark Needham</title>
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		<dc:creator>TDD: One test at a time at Mark Needham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My colleague Sarah Taraporewalla has written a series of posts recently about her experiences with TDD and introducing it at her current client. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mats - it maybe too early, but in this conversation I wanted to demonstrate how setup could be reduced by adding builders. Every time I add a builder after I have a few tests, I always regretting not doing it from the start, especially as it is not too much work to add one. Also, yes a third test would be good, but I thought the example was getting too long for a post. Thanks for the feedback</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mats &#8211; it maybe too early, but in this conversation I wanted to demonstrate how setup could be reduced by adding builders. Every time I add a builder after I have a few tests, I always regretting not doing it from the start, especially as it is not too much work to add one. Also, yes a third test would be good, but I thought the example was getting too long for a post. Thanks for the feedback</p>
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		<title>By: mats</title>
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		<dc:creator>mats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I enjoyed this article. Two things though: I would argue that the builder was introduced too early. Part of driving the design with tests is introducing patterns only when the code is screaming out for them -- this is debatable but I didn&#039;t see a need just yet.
Second, we could make the two tests pass by always returning a list of songs with drums. I would thus write a third test with a different instrument.</description>
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Second, we could make the two tests pass by always returning a list of songs with drums. I would thus write a third test with a different instrument.</p>
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